Dragon Age - DLC Nets a Million

I think the developers need to stop releasing DLC at are only a few hours long months after the game release. Customers won't play the game over again just for a couple of hours of content. The sales would be much better if they made mini expansions of about 15 - 20 hours. One way they could do this is actively try to find some outside developers to do this which would be good for smaller and indie developers. They could then release several mini expansions for the game that people would be willing to start a new game to play and the main developer could focus on a new game or full expansion.

PS. I'm not sure but isn't this what they did with NWN or were the premium modules done by Bioware.

Originally Posted by Dhruin
This isn't how I read it. I think this is additional income from sales of Warden's Keep, not adding up the freebies.

Same. The Stone Prisoner in every box is not $15, it's $0. It's basically a form of copy protection. It means they've sold at least 142 858 (assuming no one has payed $15 for Stone Prisoner) of Warden's Keep. I think we're very likely to see more DLC, but I do hope it's more substantial than Warden's Keep. It was a quality 2 hours, but still only 2 hours. The storage is nice, though, and the items, and one of the abilities is very useful.

Originally Posted by marko2te
And why do you whine about someone criticizing a product one thinks its overpriced, especially compared to similar products. I was not aware that there was universal set of rules made to forbid customers from making negative opinions about products they bought. There is nothing wrong with DLC if they offer their moneys worth, problem is not in developers but in customers that will buy anything no matter the price (horse armor, horse armor, HORSE ARMOR!!!!). I bought Dragon Age and would like to expand my gaming experience by purchasing DLC but what Bioware offers is too little for the price. What you suggest is that everyone who has negative opinion needs to shut the hell up, I think that fans need to openly say that this ratio of price and content is not right, because thats the only way to fix this problem.

I think you have totally misread what Bill is saying. Nowhere did he say that negative opinions were not welcomed. There is a difference between, one the one hand, evaluating a product so that the rest of us can make a more informed decision (that is a good thing to do) and, on the other hand, whinging about the existence of DLC at all, or saying that it is wrong for Bioware to release a two hour DLC for $7. It's the people who buy it, knowing what they're buying, and then whinge that they've been ripped off (usually this is where the asinine horse armor references come into it) that really bug me.

WK is a very enjoyable 2 hours, and it gives you som interesting insights into the history of the Grey Wardens. If you take the time to read all the codex entries you get, you're getting more than 2 hours worth of content really. You also collect a nice set of armor that has a unique (as far as I can tell) model. You get a couple of merchants who sell some nice stuff, and of course permanent storage. I don't regret any of the money I've spent on DA, ($138 AU, which is roughly $127 US) the game is easily good enough to justify the money I've spent.

I would prefer the next DLC to be longer, though. WK worked well as a day 1 DLC, but I'll want 5 - 10 hours out of the next one.

Originally Posted by Badesumofu
I think you have totally misread what Bill is saying. Nowhere did he say that negative opinions were not welcomed. There is a difference between, one the one hand, evaluating a product so that the rest of us can make a more informed decision (that is a good thing to do) and, on the other hand, whinging about the existence of DLC at all, or saying that it is wrong for Bioware to release a two hour DLC for $7. It's the people who buy it, knowing what they're buying, and then whinge that they've been ripped off (usually this is where the asinine horse armor references come into it) that really bug me.

WK is a very enjoyable 2 hours, and it gives you som interesting insights into the history of the Grey Wardens. If you take the time to read all the codex entries you get, you're getting more than 2 hours worth of content really. You also collect a nice set of armor that has a unique (as far as I can tell) model. You get a couple of merchants who sell some nice stuff, and of course permanent storage. I don't regret any of the money I've spent on DA, ($138 AU, which is roughly $127 US) the game is easily good enough to justify the money I've spent.

I would prefer the next DLC to be longer, though. WK worked well as a day 1 DLC, but I'll want 5 - 10 hours out of the next one.

So if I dont plan to buy the DLC I should not comment on it? You dont need to purchase something to see that its overpriced. Also the logic of not criticizing something as long as someone is willing to buy it does not work for me. In my opinion, as I already said, the only way for developers to change their business model is by voice of the fans and not shutting your ears, eyes and mouths. I am a big Bioware fan, I own all their games (besides JE and ME) and I am willing to support them by buying DLC and expansions in the future but I will not buy something so overpriced.

I bought Warden's Keep - it is not worth 7$.

Some minor battles, some weapons, some dialog < 1 hour.

Originally Posted by guenthar
I think the developers need to stop releasing DLC at are only a few hours long months after the game release.

+1. Plus, devs need to stop putting in game advertisement for their DLC. I've already talked about this before, but that freaking guy in the camp pisses me off to no end. I don't want to see him if I did not pay for DLC and I especially don't want to see a dialogue option (buy Warden's Keep).

I'm passing on this DLC partly because of the reviews here and partly because of that advertisement. I will have one quest that will never get finished now.

It's funny, but this is why I like DLC. I like having the option to add new stuff to my campaign. I just don't like it when they add in immersion breaking dialogue options and that downloadable 'stuff' needs to have a little more meat on its bones before I get it or it's just not worth it.

To all those complaining about cost of DLC,

Bio has released their tool set for free. This is going to give us lots of wounderful add-ons for free. Some of these add on may even be better than the game!

If they wanted to milk us for the last penny they do have to do this.

I wonder how many others do this…

You're comment appears to assume that people who are complaining about DLC are complaining about Dragon Age, or Bioware. I love DA so far and I generally quite like Bioware. And I love that they released the toolkit as I love modding.

That doesn't affect my opinion about the DLC being overpriced or that I don't like in-game DLC-mongerers peddling out-of-game products. Sure, the DLC doesn't exist in a vacuum. But if we are supposed to treat it as it's own product, and not a shaved off component of the OC (and I do treat it as it's own product) then we should be able to judge it on its own merits.

Originally Posted by Badesumofu
I think you have totally misread what Bill is saying. Nowhere did he say that negative opinions were not welcomed.

Originally Posted by BillSeurer
The second rule [of DLC] is that if you choose to not buy it don't whine about it.

I spy, with my little eye, a "not welcomed" wrapped in a blanket ad hominem.