11 days to Grimoire release. Yay.

Originally Posted by Aerth
Cleveland Mark Blakemore. He did a game for phones, apparently… Unpublished? He also did a VaultOS because you need that in case you want to survive in your Shelter.

From what I just read in his blogs: He is some kind of American survivalist who moved to Australia because an organization wanted to kill him. Versions vary. A lot.

He thinks also than the Neanderthal had a great civilization which is a fact hidden by another worldwide organization who does not want people to know about it. Name of the organization is not known, it is secret, but Cleve knows about it. So the organization is better at hiding its own name than hiding the fact than Neanderthal ruled over the world.

In his last post he said than when he was 10 yo he read Plato and thought it was a pile of crap. He literally saw through it. And also "The European Union is all about turning people into livestock and pushing them up chutes into a slaughterhouse." ..

I got my answers about how he took him 20 years to do an unfinished game.

I believe there is reasonable evidence to suggest that he really did work for Sir-tech back in the day as well, working on the sequel to Wizardry 7, although he never published anything there and left on very poor terms.

And yeah, Cleve really does believe he's part of a secret master race that's superior to others. The details of it have changed from time to over the years, but he has believed that for a long time. I know the neandrathal thing is kind of a running joke on the internet now, but he's dead serious about it when he talks about it. There are many other outlandish stories that Cleve has told about himself through the years which are easy to joke about, but Cleve was not joking when he said them. Some of them can be outright proven to be false, others, like the secret master race part, are simply highly unlikely. This is a big part of why I don't assume that he's telling the truth about anything even as simple as having a son.

There's no way he's serious about that shit. No way. I don't think anything he says he is serious about.

Originally Posted by Fluent
There's no way he's serious about that shit. No way. I don't think anything he says he is serious about.

He is quite consistent for someone who do not believe that shit. He has several blogs and he does not talk about the game in there so it is not his usual banter about Grimoire or whatever but just personal rant.
He does not look like dangerous, while totally nuts, and Internet and his troll game look like serious therapy..

If he does actually ever release something, it will be likely only the demo that others helped him on, which will take several hours to complete, and null/void any chance at obtaining a refund when you find out that's all that you paid for. So, buyers beware and whatnot.

If its on Steam, its Steam that gives you refund not developer.
Steam takes the risk of collecting from the developer.

Yeah but don't you have to file for the refund in like two hours or so from when the purchase was made?

Originally Posted by Carnifex
Yeah but don't you have to file for the refund in like two hours or so from when the purchase was made?

2 hours of game time. Although they have been lenient on me for some cases.

Originally Posted by Carnifex
Yeah but don't you have to file for the refund in like two hours or so from when the purchase was made?

They gave my $ back for a game I bought 10 days before asking for refund.
But I played it for about 15 minutes and then uninstalled, it was plain garbage that shouldn't be called a game at all.

Originally Posted by daveyd
Corwin claims he played the game from start to finish a few years ago as a beta tester though. Of course, this could be explained away by the "Corwin is Cleve" Hypothesis.

Way I see it there's several possibilities.

1. Game is basically finished as claimed, but Cleve is a pathological perfectionist (i.e., OCD or OCPD) and will always find something in the game he needs to fix or improve. Thus, it will never be truly finished, which causes him to constantly delay it for fear that it could have been so much better.

2. Game is relatively close to being finished… however, Cleve suffers from a rare form of anterograde amnesia in which he is unable to form new memories (a la "Memento") after a tragic boomerang related head injury. As he essentially forgets what he was doing mere moments ago he has to write cryptic notes to himself about what he was working on. Alternatively he may have retrodgrade amnesia, where he cannot remember anything that happened before the brain injury (possibly of the "Clean Slate" variety where he goes to sleep and forgets everything that happened the day before). Or he has the "50 first dates" psuedo-anterograde amnesia in which he wakes up every day thinking it is still 1989.

Either way it would help explain the endless delays and claims that it is almost ready, the way Cleve seems to repeat himself constantly, and gets upset when people point out his many broken promises (he literally cannot remember).

3. Cleve is just the world's greatest (or worst) Troll and there is no game. Perhaps he stole the SuperDemo a long time ago when he worked at SirTech but he has no clue on how to turn it into a game, nor any intention. It's a scam / hoax / con that will never end because the longer it goes on, the more hilarious he thinks it is. Everyone who claims to have played it is either in on it (e.g., member of Cleve's family, a fellow troll, or one of Cleve's many fake accounts) or Cleve has taken their family hostage and they must play along with the hoax out of fear Cleve will eat their loved ones when his bunker runs out of spam.

4. The game is actually finished, but it is actually more of an incredibly immersive augmented reality life sim than the ultimate old school retro blobber-style dungeon crawler that was originally promised. In fact, we are all "living" in the world of Grimoire right now, only we cannot figure out how to advance to the next level.

I'll leave it up to you to decide which is most likely.

Or, #5, the joke's on you shit-for-brains, and this game is just about to be deployed.

Originally Posted by beldurax
Or, #5, the joke's on you shit-for-brains, and this game is just about to be deployed.

I think you should read this "insight of a genius" first:
http://steamcommunity.com/games/6506…07055692406736

I told my wife it was similar to the Challenger disaster. Brilliant engineers worked for years on all these systems but then during the last hour they rushed to launch when a simple review and fix could have saved them from catastrophe. That's what I am doing with Grimoire. I canceled the countdown and we are just going to inspect those O-Rings to see if they need replacement before I punch the button here.

My prediction is that this thread will become a train wreck like the last debate on Grimoire, and Cleve will hover over it, feasting on the negative psychic energy.

Or #6 we delete anything referencing grimoire and concentrate on games that actually exist.

You could simply not post in it or read it its considered entertainment by others. Don't deprive them of it because you can't handle the anticipation or suspense or complete farce.

Originally Posted by Ripper
My prediction is that this thread will become a train wreck like the last debate on Grimoire, and Cleve will hover over it, feasting on the negative psychic energy.

I think he has much tastier feast served @ Codex. We're just small appetizers compared to their massive 1500+ posts Grimoire thread. That is his source of power.

I could not resist, I had a look at their thread. Even them do not seem to believe anymore the game exists. They are even starting comparing photos 20 years apart and one of them has spotted than computer light and keyboard noises must be good for health since the guy does not seem to age.
I say the guy deserves the 20$ for the fun factor.

Originally Posted by Dez
I think he has much tastier feast served @ Codex. We're just small appetizers compared to their massive 1500+ posts Grimoire thread. That is his source of power.

The discussions used to get so intense here, one time I was convinced that it brought down the server. I wonder if Myrth remembers that (turns out we were hacked).

Then Cleve left for some reason. We haven't had that kind of polarization since.

I am glad to see Cleve off his meds finally on Steam, tho. That comment re: the Challenger disaster, I just knew someone would get on him about that.

Obviously, the people getting on him about that were not around at the time.

Originally Posted by Dez
I think he has much tastier feast served @ Codex. We're just small appetizers compared to their massive 1500+ posts Grimoire thread. That is his source of power.

Feeling a bit fragile right now, and not sure my mind could stand gazing into the fathomless ancient horror of Cthulhu's sphincter, that is a Codexian Grimoire thread.

Well if you read the 10 first pages with the total adoration and the last ten pages where they start to understand it makes for a funny read.
It is not even a long read because for a 'serious' crowd they love to splatter pictures all over the place.

I predict Cleve keeps stringing people along this whole week, possibly the entire month, until Steam wearies of him and nukes his account. Or something like that.

Maybe we should have a bet. If Grimoire is not released this week on steam all threads are banned for 10 years from rpgwatch. if Grimoire is released this week all members must post on Grimoire thread for 10 years !