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Lucky Day December 22nd, 2007 05:08

Pricewatch!
 
OK, there's already a major site called Pricewatch but I thought I'd start one of our own. We've had several posts asking about where the official price thread was and then they post their best buys. Unfortunately, it gets scattered.

Today Christmas shoppers could pick up Divine Divinity in Jewel Case for $7.99 at Target. I think the sale lasts till Saturday.

If you could post any great deals and where they're at that could make our shopping easier. Maybe this can get stickied.

magerette December 22nd, 2007 06:57

They(Target) also have some kind of Disciples II bundle for $7.99 that includes all the main campaigns and the two Light and Dark xpak mini campaigns as well--many many happy hours of gaming that cost me many many more bucks at the time of release….

Also, the 48 hour madness at gogamer.com has the Hellgate:London CE for 39.90.

Corwin December 22nd, 2007 09:32

Unfortunately these deals only apply to those unfortunates who are forced to live in the USA!! :) Those of us in the real world don't seem to get those opportunities!!

skavenhorde December 22nd, 2007 10:39

I just bought a ton of games for my family with amazon. These are some of the ones I bought that were not too expensive.

Lego Star Wars II - 17.99
Sam & Max Episode 1 - 19.99
NWN: Diamond - 14.99
Space Quest Collection - 18.99
Kings Quest Collection - 16.99
Temple of Elemental Evil - 9.99 (Jewel)

All of these had free shipping. I think it is only for the US, sorry Corwin. I may be wrong though. I didn't check over the supersaver shipping in detail.

I'm sure everyone already knows but be careful if the prices seem too good to be true, like if a game is only $0.01. The shipping for the game is where they make their money and it definatly won't have free shipping.

A few more that I noticed while browsing amazon.
Freedom Force vs Third Riech - 4.99
Mage Knight Apocolypse - 9.97
Beyond Good and Evil - 12.97
Gothic 3 - 17.99
Dawn of War (Gold Edition) - 19.99
Star Wars KOTOR 2 - 19.99

magerette December 22nd, 2007 16:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 59096)
Unfortunately these deals only apply to those unfortunates who are forced to live in the USA!! :) Those of us in the real world don't seem to get those opportunities!!

Isn't Target actually a French-owned company? I would think they might have some outlets in Europe. Anyone know?

Lucky Day December 22nd, 2007 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin
Unfortunately these deals only apply to those unfortunates who are forced to live in the USA!! Those of us in the real world don't seem to get those opportunities!!
By real world you mean a giant desert smack dab at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean, right?:D

By all means post some deals in Australian Dollars if you see them. You guys get screwed on a lot of deals so your Supreme Court had to outlaw Regional controls on games and DVD's if I remember.

Quote:

Originally Posted by magerette (Post 59121)
Isn't Target actually a French-owned company? I would think they might have some outlets in Europe. Anyone know?

Its only French if you call it Tar-jay. Its much more upscale than say Wally World.

Also, the Salvation Army still aren't allowed in front of their store. That's how exclusive they are.

edit: I did some more checking and apaprently the French rumour started by an accidental snub of a marine. From snopes:
Quote:

The Target Corporation is a publicly held, U.S.-based firm< which has been headquartered in Minneapolis, Minnesota, since it began as the Dayton Dry Goods Company in 1902. Target is not now, nor has it ever been, foreign-owned. (A French-based financial institution, AXA</A>, holds about 42 million shares of Target stock, but that holding constitutes less than 5% of Target Corporation's outstanding shares.)-2002
and it looks like they are doing something for the SallyAnn again

http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/…3?opendocument

skavenhorde December 22nd, 2007 18:22

Yea, that damn target only allows the upper middle class into their stores. They have a Bouncer named Bubba at all their stores. He checks your wallet for platinum credit cards. If you only have a Gold card, he bounces you out of Target and calls you really bad names.

Lucky Day December 22nd, 2007 18:39

I'll need that gold card to pay $7.99 for Dark Star One

skavenhorde December 22nd, 2007 18:45

LOL, I just paid $39.99 on amazon for Dark Star One. It was supposed to be a Christmas gift to my brother, but if you can find it for only $7.99. Then I'm going to hire Bubba to get it back from him and buy it from your store.

Lucky Day December 22nd, 2007 21:12

I also saw Puzzle Quest for $20 at Circuit City yesterday. I know this is standard price but a number of people were saying they were having trouble finding it at retail.

They also had Mask of the Betrayer for $25, $5 less than anywhere else. By the time I got there they were sold out though :(
--

Its not game related but CC is also dumping their floppy drives for $15 if you still have need for one.

Corwin December 23rd, 2007 00:23

You mean they pay YOU $15 to take one away? :)

Alrik Fassbauer December 23rd, 2007 02:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 59096)
Unfortunately these deals only apply to those unfortunates who are forced to live in the USA!! :) Those of us in the real world don't seem to get those opportunities!!

This is a long-help source of grief for Star Wars collectors - outside the U.S. , of course. For example. I know at least the German position of it, and some other voices, Dutch, for example, and Australian …

The prices are *so much* different, people for example just can't believe the difference.

The usual explanation goes that this is due two a totally different economy in the U.S. , whereas the EU for example has lots of taxes and government rules.

I could try to explain much more on it - as far as I know - but I think this would become a lenghty text.

Lucky Day December 23rd, 2007 03:32

that goes both ways though. I can't get a Staedtler pen on the cheap to save my life and legos are ridiculously high. Here's a question then: do Star Ways Legos cost as much there as they do here? (I found out in my technical writing class that premade legos are so high and simple because of the difficulty and expense in design and making instructions for them. we had to do some of our own. it was a very practical assignment for engineers).

A good solution may be to list the best places for shipping overseas. I was certainly interested in the DVD version of Myst III but it was only available in Germany and it would have cost more to ship than the game itself. Some people said Amazon UK was good but I've had problems with them willing to ship to NA. What companies don't look twice when doing exports?

magerette December 23rd, 2007 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 59125)
Its only French if you call it Tar-jay. Its much more upscale than say Wally World.

Thanks for the information, Lucky. Sometimes that -5 penalty to Shopping Lore I took( so I could put extra points in Toenail Painting) really shows up. ;)

Alrik Fassbauer December 24th, 2007 00:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 59183)
that goes both ways though. I can't get a Staedtler pen on the cheap to save my life and legos are ridiculously high. Here's a question then: do Star Ways Legos cost as much there as they do here?

I don't know, because I don't know *your* price. ;)

You might try the official shop : http://shop.lego.com/Default.aspx

And what you call "ridiculosly high" might just be normal here … ;)

curiously undead December 26th, 2007 22:29

Lucky do you have something against ebay? why not get it right here from in california?
http://cgi.ebay.com/MYST-III-3-EXILE…sid=p1638.m118

there are some really good uk sellers on ebay by the way
gotten probably 2 dozen games from this guy or gal over the years
http://myworld.ebay.com/startup_software

Iane January 2nd, 2008 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 59085)
OK, there's already a major site called Pricewatch but I thought I'd start one of our own. We've had several posts asking about where the official price thread was and then they post their best buys. Unfortunately, it gets scattered.

Today Christmas shoppers could pick up Divine Divinity in Jewel Case for $7.99 at Target. I think the sale lasts till Saturday.

If you could post any great deals and where they're at that could make our shopping easier. Maybe this can get stickied.

EB Games in OZ has Divine Divinity on sale for $4.95 I picked that up and Beyond Divinity as well for 4.95

Big hello to everyone also :)

Corwin January 2nd, 2008 09:04

Hello mate, what part of Brissie do you hale from? I bought the DD games when they were released. DD is a bargain at that price, but BD…………. You might have paid too much!! :)

Iane January 2nd, 2008 09:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corwin (Post 60668)
Hello mate, what part of Brissie do you hale from? I bought the DD games when they were released. DD is a bargain at that price, but BD…………. You might have paid too much!! :)

Not to give my exact location I'll say Mt Ommaney is close for me - Your not looking to sell those copies are you ;) I'd prefer to get the original releases when possible :biggrin:

Corwin January 2nd, 2008 11:15

Well, Loganholme is close to me!! Nah, I never sell my games, I even kept PoR2!!!!! (Shudder)

JDR13 January 2nd, 2008 11:52

Just ordered Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance off of www.gogamer.com for real cheap. It's part of their "48 hour madness" sale right now and is going for $19.99(50% off) It's the expansion for the excellent Supreme Commander RTS game.

txa1265 January 3rd, 2008 04:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 60688)
Just ordered Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance off of www.gogamer.com for real cheap. It's part of their "48 hour madness" sale right now and is going for $19.99(50% off) It's the expansion for the excellent Supreme Commander RTS game.

It is nice, played it before Christmas. Unfortunately it was released in the shadow of the Company of Heroes expansion … just as the game was released in the shadow of CoH …

15th January 3rd, 2008 06:30

If you're willing to try the Australian online stores: DD and BD are $9.95 each at dStore.com.au/, along with a bunch of the older LucasArts adventure games.

A lot of these also turn up at places like HarveyNorman on those spinning-towers near checkout, providing you can find them inbetween the windows95 home garden planning software.

Dark Star One is now $9.95 at gameswarehouse.com.au/, and about $50 everywhere else I've found.

Gorath January 8th, 2008 06:17

Iīve seen The Witcher for 29.95 EUR today at Karstadt/Hertie and Media Markt. Seems the German price has been lowered.

JDR13 January 8th, 2008 06:34

That's still $44 US Dollars, not much of a deal by our standards.

zakhal January 8th, 2008 07:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 61822)
That's still $44 US Dollars, not much of a deal by our standards.

When it comes to games often the used currency ratio is 1 euro = 1 dollar. Just last weekend I was looking at the price of one paradox game and it listed the price as 24,95$ / 24,95€. From the forums I read that the earlier retailer of the game (strategy first) had tried to sell it for 24,95$ / 17,95€ but developers cancelled the deal with them (and made a new deal with paradox) because the euro price was too low.

Gorath January 8th, 2008 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDR13 (Post 61822)
That's still $44 US Dollars, not much of a deal by our standards.

44$ ? I bet thatīs fucking expensive according to Russian standards. ;)

30 EUR is mid price. Hellgate has a RRP of ~55 EUR.

Gorath January 8th, 2008 09:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakhal (Post 61837)
When it comes to games often the used currency ratio is 1 euro = 1 dollar. Just last weekend I was looking at the price of one paradox game and it listed the price as 24,95$ / 24,95€. From the forums I read that the earlier retailer of the game (strategy first) had tried to sell it for 24,95$ / 17,95€ but developers cancelled the deal with them (and made a new deal with paradox) because the euro price was too low.

Prices in EUR include ca. 20% VAT, dollar prices donīt.

JDR13 January 8th, 2008 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorath (Post 61850)
44$ ? I bet thatīs fucking expensive according to Russian standards. ;)



No doubt a jab at the widespread pirating over there? :biggrin:

Gorath January 8th, 2008 10:29

Not only that. ;)
Theyīre also selling originals of new releases in jewel cases for 3$ or so.

zakhal January 8th, 2008 18:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorath (Post 61851)
Prices in EUR include ca. 20% VAT, dollar prices donīt.

Based on monthly average the last time euro was 1.20284 USD (20% VAT) was in march 2006. In december 2007 it was 1.45517 USD (45% VAT???).

I guess they are just slow to take account the currency changes (its not like anyone forces them to do it). Perhaps once per year or two. I know one online shop in america that does it perhaps twice per year and the prices became real low during the last year (20-30€ for new games). Made me buy more than few of their games.

Lucky Day January 8th, 2008 18:32

When I was London last year all the (extremely high) shelf prices already included the tax. It was nice, no fishing for pennies.

Is this not the way on the Continent?

This is not the way it is in the US or Canada. That way the store to blame the government for the extra charge.

Gorath January 8th, 2008 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakhal (Post 61929)
Based on monthly average the last time euro was 1.20284 USD (20% VAT) was in march 2006. In december 2007 it was 1.45517 USD (45% VAT???).

I wasnīt talking about the exchange rate. You misunderstood me. Or you have no clue what VAT (aka. sales tax) is. ;)
The shop calculates a net price which includes his margin. Then the sales tax comes on top of it. The result is the final price which is displayed to end customers, for example 54.95 € for Hellgate London.
VAT in Finnland is 22%. Itīs added on all goods and services which are used in Finnland or are imported into Finnland, apart from a couple of exceptions with lower rates.
The US prices usually do not include this sales tax. Itīs added when you check out, if it has to be paid. So if you want to compare the prices you have to either add VAT to the US prices or deduct it from the Euro prices.

Quote:

I guess they are just slow to take account the currency changes (its not like anyone forces them to do it). Perhaps once per year or two. I know one online shop in america that does it perhaps twice per year and the prices became real low during the last year (20-30€ for new games). Made me buy more than few of their games.
Why should they have the same price in dollar and Euro? Itīs more clever to take what you can get in each market. ;)

Gorath January 8th, 2008 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucky Day (Post 61933)
Is this not the way on the Continent?

Only for the few days it takes a competitor to send you a cease and desist. ;)

Itīs one of the key foundations of the European Economic Area to pay in the same currency (EUR), at least in the countries which chose to participate, and pay exactly what the price label says. This makes prices easier to compare and simplifies a lot of things.

zakhal January 8th, 2008 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorath (Post 61979)
I wasnīt talking about the exchange rate. You misunderstood me. Or you have no clue what VAT (aka. sales tax) is. ;)
The shop calculates a net price which includes his margin. Then the sales tax comes on top of it. The result is the final price which is displayed to end customers, for example 54.95 € for Hellgate London.
VAT in Finnland is 22%. Itīs added on all goods and services which are used in Finnland or are imported into Finnland, apart from a couple of exceptions with lower rates.
The US prices usually do not include this sales tax. Itīs added when you check out, if it has to be paid. So if you want to compare the prices you have to either add VAT to the US prices or deduct it from the Euro prices.

I know very well what VAT is and the fact that US prices doesnt include it (noticed it myself once when I ordered som stuff from there). :p The point is that it would have to be as high as 45% to explain the difference and thats way above the norm that is 20% - so it simply doesnt fly as an explanation.

I just hate when people explain higher euro prices with "taxes" even though it certainly does not explain it. Its not just games but all kinds of consumer stuff. My guess is that rest of the world hates europe (world wars, colonialism?) and they always add extra to the cost when they import stuff here. In example the console / computer part / HDTV prices are just an insult when compared to countries like japan or USA.

Last time I calculated prices for ps3 the us version costs same if you reduce features (i.e remove ps2 compatability), use 1 = 1 currency conversion, add max taxes and 200€ "extra cost" to the top. Its madness.

(went a bit offtopic)

Gorath January 8th, 2008 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by zakhal (Post 61983)
I know very well what VAT is and the fact that US prices doesnt include it (noticed it myself once when I ordered som stuff from there). :p The point is that it would have to be as high as 45% to explain the difference and thats way above the norm that is 20% - so it simply doesnt fly as an explanation.

It was no explanation. It was a clarification that there is not as much of a difference as it seems at first glance.

Gorath January 12th, 2008 08:02

Amazon.de has a new 2-for-1 deal. Buy Hellgate: London and you get Crysis for free.

Corwin January 12th, 2008 08:52

And they're still overpriced!! :)

Lucky Day January 13th, 2008 05:07

Oblivion: Shivering Isles I bought two days ago at Circuit City for $11.99. Their website has it for $14.99.

Alrik Fassbauer January 13th, 2008 20:28

I once read an article in a German magazine called c't , and it was about higher prices for translated software, I think the example even mentioned Adobe.

The point was that they said that the higher price was due to translation, and that German customers were NOT allowed to use the much cheaper English-language versions of the software !

The author of the article argued (at least that's how I have in my memory) that even plus the costs for translations the price shouldn't be *that* high. He then stated the (rather cynical, imho) guess that Europeans get those higher prices simply because they are used to it and kind of support the original English-language versions (which he implicitely expressed with that to be rather under-priced) of the software.

From a today's perspective I'd say that this article was just a product out of pure frustration, maybe, but at least I can see why, because I often feel so frustrated about it myself.

The German economy seems to also o into this direction: "We put our prices high, because Germans are used to pay high prices nevertheless. So we can have much more profits." (Imaginary comment of an imaginary manager. )

A few days ago I read about a small software company sellkiing their software only in Euros right now, because the Dollar is so "weak", so to say.


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