Realms Beyond - Halloween Update
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The Shovelware Surprise
The Ellis Studios Beast
Hobgoblin42 Himself
The "I Hope This Scam, err, "Game" Doesn't Get Funded" Bigfoot
The Noodle-Face Ugly Graphics Monster
The "Where's The Actual Gameplay and Content Updates For the Kickstarter???" Side Distraction
Happy Halloween! :lol:
The Ellis Studios Beast
Hobgoblin42 Himself
The "I Hope This Scam, err, "Game" Doesn't Get Funded" Bigfoot
The Noodle-Face Ugly Graphics Monster
The "Where's The Actual Gameplay and Content Updates For the Kickstarter???" Side Distraction
Happy Halloween! :lol:
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Happy Halloween…(a mysterious black cat ponders the secrets of the universe)
Fluent played the demo of a game by a company called Ellis Studios, was impressed by its gameplay and defended it here on RPG Watch. It turned out that Ellis Studios stold the demo from a normal developer.
He also then beta tested a game called Demon Age. The developers of Demon Age apparently bought many of the resources from that game had been sold to them by the bankrupt publisher of a game called the Chaos Chronicles. Many of the Realms Beyond developers had worked on that game. Demon age was a total disaster.
Fluent sees a connection between Realms Beyond and those games, which most of the rest of us here don't see. I guess its once bitten twice shy.
I've been following this KS and if anything, I really love their updates. They're quite meaty, so that is one title that is unwarranted.
I really hope they make it.
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You must be really easy to please. Where are the gameplay videos? Where is anything worth looking at other than some item descriptions, name a monster, etc.? Now apparently they are going to add writers to their team as a stretch goal. Sweet, the game might have writing now.
I just don't trust Hobgoblin42, Jarlfrank or anyone associated with this, Demons Age, Chaos Chronicles or whatever they're calling it nowadays to try and pass it off for a buck. The combat looked slow and boring, the ruleset is boring, they just took Demons Age and slapped on some boring character customization we've seen done better a million times and are trying to pass it off again.
You don't have to believe me. If the Kickstarter succeeds we'll see what comes from it. I wouldn't hold my breath that we see anything from it, or anything worth playing.
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There was a 20+ minute of a single combat encounter that looked atrocious, and then just the little trailer bits in the KS trailer, which is also atrocious. How about a look at gameplay in a minute-to-minute way? Or show something, no one is being inspired with confidence by "name a monster" or a few quotes about magical shoes. All that being said it's exactly what I expected, so I'm not surprised.
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Outside of Larian, I don't really recall any Kickstarters I've backed having real gameplay videos at the time of the Kickstarter. And most of them turned out great. Realms Beyond actually has more video footage than most games I've backed did.
(1) Demons Age has nothing to do with these guys other than they (illegally apparently, judging from Steam removal) used some of the code and graphics assets from Chaos Chronicles
(2) The combat and ruleset is pretty faithful D&D 3.5, so that's boring? Pretty sure many/most here would strongly disagree.
Sounds good, although there's a solid chance that you might look like an idiot in a year or two when this game turns out to be good or even great.
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Have they mentioned yet whether there will be pre-generated companions the player can recruit? I'd rather have a team of personalities with associated banter and motivations, but I suspect we're not going to get that. Maybe it's too much to expect at this budget level?
I don’t know if the game is going to be great or good, but I’ve spent several hours with @HobGoblin42; at Gamescom and there is an actual game there, with a huge game world. What they need is meaningful content and a decent story to fill that world.
The only way for them to accomplish that is to have additional writers, which a large portion of the money will go to even if they don’t reach a single stretch goal. More money will mean more possibilities for extra writers.
But none of that will convince Fluent. Nothing anyone will say will convince him otherwise. He has decided that he is going to spout the same nonsense, that has been debunked by several members, in every thread about Realms Beyond. I guess that is the kind of person he is nowadays.
The only way for them to accomplish that is to have additional writers, which a large portion of the money will go to even if they don’t reach a single stretch goal. More money will mean more possibilities for extra writers.
But none of that will convince Fluent. Nothing anyone will say will convince him otherwise. He has decided that he is going to spout the same nonsense, that has been debunked by several members, in every thread about Realms Beyond. I guess that is the kind of person he is nowadays.
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Fluent, you have serious communication issues. Just some days ago you posted this:
It's difficult to take you serious if you act like this.
With your above post you again connect this game to Demon's Age.
It's difficult to take you serious if you act like this.
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Perhaps they'd be in better shape in that area if Copper (née Silver) Coin and Winterfart hadn't launched a crusade to force them to fire their lead(?) writer who apparently was working for free, all because he posts edgy stuff on internet forums. Oh well, that's 2018 for you.
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