I think the same is happening here, just with different kinds of accusations. The intent is to harm the developers
No, its not happening here. Did somebody call VtM2 devs racists or something here? Did RPGWatch stuff start campaing and write series of articles about them? No and I hope they dont start. And how many critics did you see here? Keep in mind that this is only ONE topic in the forum. I dont see ppl in rage here spamming about VtM2 devs. So…
The truth that there were black people in Bohemia during that time period
Im afraid you believed ideological lie, Fluent. A pity. Forgottenlor already replied to you. I only add that there was historical research. With historians from the same country where the game take place.
Ripper said:
You think the right doesn't attempt boycotts, smearing, blacklisting
Yes, they try but their options are more limited. Did you see right wing campaign on some mainstream site? They do it on social media, but there are also many (and probably more) campaigns from their opponents. And some ppl got banned there. Or do you mean campaigns on some niche forum that is widely unknown? That would be funny example of equality… And YT is not that great for campaigns. Ok, maybe YT, but its still not on the level of attack on Warhose imho.
But its not all. You already said that so called "propaganda" from diff devs is just different opinion, right? So why do you call "propaganda" from diff ppl as "campaign"? Sorry, but it sounds like hypocrisy. Just because you dont like their opinion it doesnt mean its "campaign". Just different opinion.
Ripper said:
Heh. Why do you attribute review bombing to one side? Do you think that for example group of Vavra haters never gave low marks to Kingdom Come? Its false claim again. Review-bombing can be in small or bigger scale done by ANYONE and probably was.
Ripper said:
As they are so fond of claiming, "get woke, go broke".
So what? If they think so… They are as fond of it as others are so fond of "gamers are dead".
Ripper said:
How does that work if their side doesn't also have the power to exert pressure, and help to determine the success and failure of a product based on politics?
Do you want to say that one group of gamers miraculously "exert pressure" over all gamers? Really? And what do you mean by "exert pressure"? Again you juggle with fancy words but hide real meaning. Mainstream sites and other groups with different opinions strangely dont have any influence over sales now? Its nonsense. It has nothing to do exclusively with right wing.
There is one important fact that you "strangely" omitted - that there is one far more powerfull "group" that can really influence all gamers. Yes, there is. Its PR and marketing of publisher/devs! It has much bigger influence than any gamer group. And this power obviously favor product be it pro-sjw or not. Anti-sjw alone couldnt massively influence sales against massive PR UNLESS the game has more problems, bugs, questionable quality… or there is much bigger player base that share some of their opinions. So, not its not like one side (right wing) has some special power over sales. That is clearly not true again.
Or… are you just angry that customers have still the right to determine what they buy?
Regarding "equality" I would also like to ask which mainstream game devs bowed down to demands of right wing? Just to see some "balance". Which mainstream game devs responded to right wing that they agree and will adopt some right wing idea or anti-sjw theme into their game? Which one?
Ripper said:
many people have set the bar for what is beyond the pale far too low, and there is far too much outrage culture, all around.
I agree with that.
One more thing - many ppl somehow forgot that player activists are common people. With bad habits too. They are not paid or PR experts. Its media guys who should be professionals, educated writers with ethics and paid to do the right job! They are not paid to act like amateur activists, angry mob or liers. So the responsibility is first and foremost on professional media writers, not on gamers!