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Tell me about it.
Are Baldur's Gate games superior to recent Piranha Bites games?
They're superior to *all* recent games.
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Are Baldur's Gate games superior to recent Piranha Bites games?
Actually yes, there was also the NWN from 1991 which was a multiplayer online game hosted on AOL. :lol:I liked NWN2 as well by Obsidian but never played their expansion. NWN2 was not good as NWN but still a good game.
I have not played the NWN MMO as I hear its crap tonn of micro transactions.
Is there any other types of NWN?
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Whilst both were good games I think that people tend to view things like Baldur's Gate and Gothic with rose tinted nostalgia spectacles.
Times have moved on and much less is left to the imagination than it used to be. This means that writing is far more complex today than it was when either of those games were made.
Things have moved on for a reason and you can't seriously compare some pixels or block filled shapes with the artistry required to make modern eye candy any more than you can the writing or dialogue.
@purpleblob; and others.
There is a mod on Nexus that removes head bobbing. It doesn't fix everything but in the comments there are some interesting notes on how to edit the camera and seems like it won't be long till someone fixes most of the motion issues:
https://www.nexusmods.com/greedfall/mods/8
I don't need it thankfully - I read in cars and even on the treadmill. Never had much issue with it, for which I am appreciative.
"I disgaree - the graphics have improved significantly but can't say same with the writing quality."
pfft. There is a story in BG but quests have no complex interplay with it and the "writing" is almost non existent. You get some nonsensical dialogue here and there and a bit at each "chapter" and that's it. Spiderweb games are better written than BG was never mind the newer stuff. And the graphics are barely tolerable today. So play it or not you can't seriously compare it on a like for like basis (with no context to the fact that it IS old) to something like Kingmaker and still say..yeah BG is amazing. Notice I used the word 'is' there not 'was'. So my point was not that old games can't still be enjoyed, not even that new games are better - it's YOU who have thrown this in with an assumption as to what I was saying just by mentioning Bioware at all. Which I have already explained.
I find it ironic that someone who obviously doesn't understand why those games are as popular as they are is accusing someone else of unsound reasoning.
I believe A reason why they are popular was noted. As we have frequently seen popularity is not always a sign of quality; just look at some of our elected officials and other aspects of your daily life.
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IMHO BG 2 was enjoyable (even today) but it is hardly the best game (or best rpg) in existence imho. However, I'm reluctant to name games I consider better for two reasons:
First the mud slinging that shall follow and second there is no definitive 'best' or 'better' or 'good' game as it is a highly opinionated view.
That is not to say that many games (both new and old) are crap or poorly designed/written/implemented but there is some truth that age provides rosy glasses for the past.
I dont think anyone here fights for BG to be announced as best game of history. At the same time there is lots of people (myself included) who consider BG games as great games and well playable even today. Why that opinion should be labeled as rose tinted nostalgia I do not understand. In similar way I feel about opinion graphics being alpha and omega of gaming. Not all people have it that way. And reason for that is not that they are dumb and unable to realize real reasons behind their own preferences.
I find it ironic that someone who obviously doesn't understand why those games are as popular as they are is accusing someone else of unsound reasoning.