Devolver Digital had a 'conference' at E3 this year which came after the Bethesda presentation. Irony knows no bounds. Thanks Luj1!
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They have never had their own DRM, they have never introduced microtransactions, they have never required an online connection or any other dumb anti-piracy nonsense that never works, and yet all they get for their efforts is hate.
No. Steam client is a simple software DRM version and thanks to GOG there are plenty of games you get turned into DRMfree just by connecting GOG and Steam account.Steam is - highly cynically and very extremely put - kind of an Stockholm Syndrome : People LOVE their DRM these days !
I don't get the Bethesda comment. Bethesda have consistently given us great games with hundreds of hours of content and full modding tools for free. Games that until the missteps of Fallout 4 were the measuring stick for rpgs that came after them.
I don't get the Bethesda comment. Bethesda have consistently given us great games with hundreds of hours of content and full modding tools for free. Games that until the missteps of Fallout 4 were the measuring stick for rpgs that came after them. They have never had their own DRM, they have never introduced microtransactions, they have never required an online connection or any other dumb anti-piracy nonsense that never works, and yet all they get for their efforts is hate. People are crying about paid mods, but Creation Club isn't paid mods. Mods still exist as they are and they are free. The Creation Club content creators are being hired by Bethesda as full paid salary jobs internally, or as outside contractors to create official DLC for their games. It is literally no different than say, Nuke World, it is completely optional content that you can ignore if you want, and it doesn't change modding in the slightest. For years, everyone on Nexus has been telling modders that Bethesda should hire them, now Bethesda is hiring them and the same people are saying "F" Bethesda. The increasing old grumpy man syndrome and overall negativity and sense of false nostalgia is turning me away from this site and I have been coming here since day one, being basically silent unless something really bothered me and this hipster hater reality on the internet these days really bugs me. I would have thought an older site would present a more mature viewpoint than that, but apparently not.
People wearing those silly shirts clapping for pre-orders at the Xbox conference was funny and sad at the same moment.
Is bringing rotten tomatoes even allowed at E3?As for my most hated moments…
- People clapping at the "announcement" by Phil Spencer that the game revealed during the Microsoft press conference were all available for Pre-Order. Same thing for the "announcement" that all Xbox One accessories were forward compatible with Xbox One X.
They seem to be utterly clueless when it comes to the reality of the gaming industry - and specifically the publisher model and reality of business. All they care about is not getting what they want from strangers that are under zero obligation to provide for them.
I guess that's human nature - and some people don't feel they need to have rational reasons for much at all.
That's not likely to change, though.
Personally, I sometimes take pleasure in pointing out the utter nonsense of their arguments - and they get a little upset.
Won't change anything - though - especially not if the silent majority don't mind one lie spoken after the other.
Seems that these gaming bigots represent the norm around here these days, but what can you do.
Key is to not take it personally
People disagreeing with your conclusions means you have either failed to convince or you did not argue to the point they were trying to make. I think most people here are willing to concede to logic barring of course personal preferences in gameplay and the like for which there is no objective true.
The stupid thing is though people still buy the crap that gets released which lets too many of these corps get away with doing this repeatedly. As for Bethesda they may not be the worst of the offenders but they are far from the most consumer friendly either. They do rake in BILLIONS of $$$$ so they are a fair target as far as I am concerned.
Sad commentary on what the sheepeople will tolerate I think that Devolver hit the nail right on the head.
But there are certainly people around here where logic has no impact whatsoever when it comes to Bethesda or Bioware.
I don't think that is the case with most people here. I would say that most people are first older and were playing those two companies games when they were making their mark in the gaming world.
As one grew bigger and one sold their sold, you have to admit their games became more geared towards pleasing a larger amount of people(making more money).
This is not to say at times threads here about either of them don't go off the rails into complete silliness. Though the fault is equal to the people that love their games as don't care for them as much.