You shouldn't let your dislike of crowd funding blind you. I'll never lost my time collect for you the obvious statistics about turn based games and crowd funding.Non sense. Crowdfunded scene is the one that brought multiplayer to UgoIgo party based products.
I always played in priority turn based and its comeback is totally obviously linked to crowd funding, but again certainly XCOM 1 contributed significantly. And for multiplayer and TB, I totally don't care and there's no link with TB come back.
Innovate, the big word, piety I tried played too many of those "innovating" indie games, hours of boredom. Most of those innovative games are for game dev/designers aspirant, the most fun of most of those games isn't their gameplay it's to quote the innovations. It's like prototype from a lab, in reality it's not finished and tuned, it's half working. Who buy prototype car, seriously.The crowdfunded scene of a bubble of privileges which is afforded a regressive pattern. Crowdfunded products do not need to improve on their predecessors (they do not match old good games in their gameplay) and they do not need to innovate.
That's a young obsession (and reviewers obsessions bored of playing so only innovation wake up their curiosity), young still have the illusion that it means anything to be in the hype and at the edge of I don't know what. Sure don't read any classic, too late they don't innovate anymore, sigh, many young are superficial, it's nothing new they just need some maturity.
I know many elders here believe firmly best games was all in past. I don't agree with that. It's not that simple. Just one example, for me XCOM is hugely superior to X-Com. They are different games, but if I am forced to compare them, here is my opinion. Moreover if I add that XCOM 2 isn't just XCOM 2 but it's two games and it's also Long War 2, the oldie classic can't bear the comparison from far, for me.Crowdfunded products are afforded to be inferior to their predecessors and copies of their predecessors.
For big budget crowd funded RPG, yep for now all had significant screwed up elements. But most famous RPG of past had also their share of screwed up elements, I'll take only one example, Ultima 7 had total crap combats, it was full of bugs, it had the worst real time programming ever. So nope, it's not that simple and from far.
Wasteland 2 Director's Cut and Dragonfall are for me those from crowd funding that achieved be classic. PoE is a bit too many garbage in many aspects but let see what will be PoE2, PoE1 extensions had already a significantly better quality. DOS is a unique and innovative RPG, too bad they screwed up the writing, character/party building is rather limited, and for vanilla they failed polish design of too many combats, it's possible DOS EE fixed that last point, I never played it. Otherwise I had fun with some more indie from Banner Saga to Antharion.
Now yeah crowd funding mechanism aren't pushing to innovation, it's a problem for youngers and blase players, not for older players that aren't over saturated by playing.
Progress, innovation, again. Social aspect of crowd funding RPG, eventually coop of DOS, and stupid Banner Saga idea to polish single player gameplay though a multiplayer variation facepalm, I don't see much more.Devs have been turning to social features as a way to cope with the difficulty of making progress in SP products.
Social features come as a substitute for the lack of expected SP products.
Devs fail to deliver any progress in the SP department so they turn to social features as additional content.
The big trick was story and change games into entertainment. Who's is whining about story innovations? So this let more space to make something new without to reinvent the wheel again and again. Could be a bit lame, but mass of players appreciate this increased focus on entertainment aspects. That's also certainly the main cause of gameplay general quality drop down, with exceptions. This brought many new problems of game design that hadn't to manage older games.
Perhaps social is the new lame trick, but it's no way brought by crowd funding.
And also bash on crowd funding is more and more a stupid idea, time are coming where most money for games will be spend into multiplayer and social, crowd funding will be even more the glow in time of darkness.
People like you, making a sport to bash crowd funding, are a serious shame. You should better go back play your Ubi and EA games, and stop destroy something you can't understand and that isn't your concern.
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