As I said, I was talking about the quality of a game - which can NEVER be factual.
Your comment I was refering to was this one:
Combat is similar, but simpler.
It is not about quality, but complexity. Generally that's not the same thing.
It's simply impossible to establish for everyone how good something is - or how "complex" a set of systems will be to each and every individual out there.
Yes and no. It's hard for quality to be measured. For complexity it's far more easy.
You really have to accept that, if you want to understand the nature of things.
I never said otherwise.
So no, not really. I think people would do well to stop taking the opinions of other people personally - and deal with how we all like different things for different reasons.
Of course, and I never did otherwise.
In the case of SR, I highly recommend that you don't "combat" the opinions of others - but simply state your own opinion, and you back it up with rational arguments.
I don't see where I've "combated" an opinion. I've said that for me combat seemed more complex to me in SR because I've used more options and varied tactics. I never said that your opinion was wrong.
We're all adult here, and Fluent is fully capable of forming his own opinion. He's just looking for an "idea" of whether the game is worth his time, and the more opinions - the better.
Yes, but imho it's easier form an own opinion if others use words to describe the uncertainty of an opinion, which likewise describes the uncertainty of the issue.
I consider this competitive aspect of exchanging opinions juvenile and a waste of time.
In regards of the original matter (combat complexity) I'm not competing at all. Me trying to explain why I think subjective impressions should be marked as that may seem like I'm trying to compete, indeed. But I'm not.
In fact I often see discussions as competitions. But imho the winner isn't the one who pushes through his own opinition, but the one who changes his opinion.
To keep saying "imo" would only support a level of ignorance that's generally destructive to human interaction,
And that's were we're different appareantly. I think it's a good way in conversations to remind the dialog partner every now and then that a made statement isn't a fact but a subjective opinion.
and there are people who don't even accept that an opinion is ok - when it's very different from his or her own. In that case, I would need to spend an eternity teaching people like Archangel how to be an adult and how to accept and tolerate our differences.
I think we agree on that there are people like this and that it's often tedious to discuss with them. But do I understand you correctly that you rather "disguise" your opinion as a fact (for not having annoying "discussions") than just saying that it's an opinion?
It's not really my responsibility to teach people how things can be perceived very, very differently from person to person - and there's never a "correct" opinion about the quality of a game.
As before, it wasn't about quality, but complexity.
When I'm in the mood to remind people that my opinion is really only an opinion, I'll do that - but I think I should do it less, rather than more.
I think you should do it more, but that's not for me to decide.
I would never tell you what you should do, but I highly recommend you don't assume people are claiming to speak the objective truth when expressing their opinion.
There's only a fine line between "highly recommendating" and "tell sb. what to do."
And well, I think that most people don't see a difference between their own perception (which they think is correct) and the objective truth. So I like to remind them.
You know the difference, but are handling dialogs differently to a certain degree.
Most people are simply so emotionally attached to their own perception of "reality" that they need time to adjust to alternate ways of looking at things.
Once you learn to do so, you'll find it's much, much easier to deal with conflicting opinions - even when the people holding them claim they're "correct".
Yep, I think the allegory of the cave should be tought in schools extensively all around the globe. Imho it's important and fundamental, understanding it makes one's life way more easy.
You don't even say that yourself, so just because you found this specific case especially "impolite" - there's no rule you can follow. In short, you don't even practice what you preach -
Oh, I'm really trying to do so. Of course I may fail one or the other time.
so this is clearly about an emotional response because I didn't agree that SR is the most complex of the two.
Emotions in internet forum discussions? No. These times are long gone.
When I need to pick between what's beneficial and what's polite, politeness will lose more or less every time.
Indeed. I think in this case it would have been polite and benefical. But as said, we're different here and that's ok.