In short: science works, it actually makes measurable predictions, still it does not assume that it knows the absolute truth, but constantly tests current theories for exceptions and flaws and adjusts its models to fit new results, it also does not make any a priori assumptions and favors no particular theory when several are equal given the evidence at hand.
As far as humans evolving from a lower species, even a common ancestor would require by purely natural evolution that we have organized from primordial soup. And does anyone really with any ability to think freely and grasp the forest, not just the trees trully think man with his metaphysical consciousness and not to even mention a soul, could arise from purely primordial matter (and evolution requires matter alone) via natural selection?
There is absolutely no possible material explanation for a natural selection progression to a soul. Neither is there one for a non-physical consciousness. SO anyone who excepts everything transmitted and programmed at them without critical thinking, is it acceptable to you to believe that you are nothing more then organized matter, with no energistic consciousness nor soul, a walking autamata/robot flesh machine?
And?Wow this is some funny stuff. The concept is quite simple really. Science does not have the instrumentality to observe or measure anything besides physical matter and energy.
Only things proven to exist, yes.Thats it, thats all that means. So, we are talking about people believing that what science can measure today is the only thing that exists.
Of course.So if you believe in that line of thinking, then your beliefs will slowly grow over the course of your life.
Yes.However, current scientific theory asserts the age of the universe at approx. 14 billion or so years old. So your belief in all that exists is only founded on, what 400 years of modern western science????
No, but Science has proven to be the best tool we have in analyzing the universe around us. As new things are discovered, old theories are updated or thrown out to match the new data. No other human 'belief system' comes close to Science.Do you trully believe believe that our 400 year old observations of a 14 billion old(according to the latest theories), maybe even older, observable universe are rock solid!?
And?Some of the latest astrophysic postulations concerning gravity, and even somewhat older ones like string theory suggest both particle spin and gravitic force may be influenced by other dimensional forces.
Really? So if I bash part of your brain in with a bat you're going to keep operating at the same level of consciousness?Lets take a look at consciousness. The mechanisms for for the "experiencing window" of conscious processing are unknown. There is no model of ongoing leading thought processing. Basically, there is no location of consiousness by cells, system or energy that can be measured. The understanding is the brain fires the I/O processing, yet the leading edge experiential thinking control center is an unkown device. Why? Its because the mind is not a physical object of the brain.
Oh, really? So it can't be measured yet you know it exists? Well hey, I think my mind resides in a mystical passageway to my gleebelgloble, but you can't detect it with science. How amusing your "scientific theories" are! They can't even detect a gleeblegloble, yet you still blindly follow them!Consiousness rides on the physical thoroughfares of the brain, and it connects at its core which can not be easily accessed to the soul. Thats why the soul cannot be measured, because it does not exist in a physical location.
kWe at the most simplistic terms are talking about dimensional transposition. And you know what, string theory and latest gravitational theory postulates dimensional transposition as well.
Oh, really? This is known? Where is the lab testing that shows us? You do realize there are million dollar prizes readily offered to anyone who can prove any sort of ESP-like abilities, yes? Where are the peer review studies for your claims, UFO Weekly?In sacred texts many cultures going back thousands of years, consciousness is by means of meditative and hypnotic trance frequency attainment is known to achieve transcendant experience, non-physical observation such as out of body experiences.
Wow, people can calm themselves down and slow their heart rate! That HAS to prove that your mind doesn't have a physical location!Lets look at martial arts, yoga, etc. Consiousness states can control physical states, even physical properties of the body.
I'm sure you can, and I can expand on how my gleeblegloble allows me to see into the Third Realm of Kazmodiar.I can expand on the incredible eastern achievements and how they connect with the concept of the soul.
KAlso, I am not familiar how it is possible for any 100% physical natural selection or emergent property theory to explain evolution to +4 dimensional connections/existence etc. I would like to see that though for a good chuckle.
And by the way, I do some martial arts, and I have yet to see some metaphysical aspect of it. Sure it's about concentration and understanding anatomy to a degree, but in the end these things are very compatible with Newtonian physics.
I used to do some aikido (ki no kenkyukai school) many years ago. That particular school approaches the martial art through ki; i.e., all the techniques are taught and practiced through the concept of ki. I mean sure, we learned the motions, but the main point was "where the ki goes."
The interesting thing was that it worked. I could do stuff by "extending ki" that I could not do any other way. Some of the masters I trained with could even do some pretty amazing stuff, such as preventing two much bigger guys from lifting him off the ground, or throwing an uke without any physical contact. (I even learned to do the latter myself, under some very specific conditions.) It also became quite easy to tell in sparring or training if the other guy was extending ki or not.
However, I did not see nor experience anything that would require supernatural explanations either. No levitation, no smashing bricks at a distance, no X-ray vision.
I also attended some "mixed school" camps as well, which had practitioners of the aikikai school as well. Aikikai practices aikido the same way most martial arts are taught -- through repetition and continuous refinement of technique, combined with sparring. The interesting thing there was that the lower-ranked aikikai practitioners were, generally speaking, *not* extending ki -- their technique *looked* good (better than ours, in fact), but there was no "power" behind it. However, the *higher-ranked* aikikai folks were extending ki exactly the same way as the higher-ranked ki no kenkyukai folks. IOW, the end result was the same in both cases -- practice ten years, and you'll get pretty good at it.
The experience I got from that is that ki is a label for a very complex psycho-physical phenomenon. It describes a way of consciously getting the mind and body pulling in the same direction that can normally be achieved only through such intense practice that the techniques become automatic. You can see it in sports, if you look for it -- for example, an intermediate-and-up tennis player serving, a golfer hitting a drive, a footballer feinting past an opponent or shooting, and so on.
However, I have no idea what ki "is," or whether it can be reduced to anything further. I believe it's yet another of the emergent properties that make us such interesting beings. I certainly can't think of ways to quantify or measure it; however, it is a useful concept. I think "mind" and "consciousness" are similar, but more complex ones.
And as for "soul..." that, I'll leave to the poets and theologians.