Gryniaris
"1. PB was working in Milestones..."
Maybe it was milestones, but your summation, can't be right Dev's under the control of a pub don't decide release dates.
Moriendor
"nothing personal, folks, you keep believing and reading what you want to read/believe... no problem"
Well I didn't take it personally, nor are my comments intended as personal, just friendly banter.
"Of course, these are all subject to change and can only be considered as "facts" in a very loose sense but here goes:"
Lots of really good info there and as always, thanks for your efforts.
"I think I've posted and translated those like about 116 times by now"
Well, Morie since I have been playing Vanguard for the last 2 or 3 months having a blast and since this happened during that time, I wouldn't know about your facts. .
I really don’t feel like reading 3 months worth of threads to try to find it, however if you would provide a link, I would be glad to learn the (your?) facts.
""I guess some people are just facts-resistant (like where did you get that crap about the engine from, Ace?"
For the most part I didn't claim facts, I did point to statically accuracies such as PB IS capable of making the title they envisioned, as I recall.
Now if your claiming facts, that PB is NOT skilled enough to make the game they almost has finished, I would like to see a link.
Btw, at least at this point my retention seems fine, it's just your info (facts?) are unknown to me.
Also, never claimed, poor PB, but they clearly are capable of a quality title, if the former publisher doesn't have a clue as to what it takes to make State of the Art, Innovation and Quality they should get the Hell Out of Making State of the Art Games.
Oh, wait they, just did, now they are working as mostly B publisher.
The question isn't, did PB make mistakes or not, No One is claiming such nonsense, the fact is the former publisher wanted to be a Player but they did NOT have the funds or the ability to see the Vision nor the Hard Work necessary to see the project through.
Until I see your facts, at this point your point seem to be intentionally claiming my argument it based on the "poor PB syndrome" which it wasn't clearly..
Now if stating accuracies about PB capabilities makes you think, poor PB, well that could be because it would be like the Catholic church hiring Da vinci to make the greatest painting ever painted, then when he wasn't finished after 3 years, to kick him out before it was completed, because they couldn't afford the greatest.
It would seem obvious who the want is to be, in this equation, we know PB can and former publisher can’t..
So if you have some info about PB saying, "OMG we are teh Suck, cause we couldn't do what we wanted to, we are NOT skilled enough", I would love to see, it.
Or possible how the former publisher has published AAA title after title with amazing success, cause then you would have a case.
Addtionally even if my obvious attemps as humor and retorical devies, failed doesnt really mean the point is inaacurate.
It won't matter to me of PB makes a Sic Fi or Fantasy, thier ablities at character and world development surpass most developers.