Really, how so? I'm not stomping my feet or calling CDP evil. I've pointed out they could've left off at just patching it so the Enhanced Edition is a nice touch.
You're siding with the person who's saying that it's a negative that they released the enhanced edition like they did.
That's unreasonable, and I've detailed why above. If you don't understand what I mean by now, you likely never will.
However, if you're just saying that they don't deserve praise, then I guess I misunderstood your words. I don't personally agree, but it's not unreasonable to simply not be grateful.
However, I've also been around long enough to realise that it's not what we should encourage. Patches are nice. Fixing a translation your publisher messed up is nice. But it's not praise-worthy, it should be the base level we consumers demand of publishers. Because if we don't, they'll keep shovelling crap at us as they are.
It's not praise-worthy to do something nice?
I have to disagree.
I think we should encourage people to be nice, and investing significantly to improve your product and giving the result away for free - I agree - is definitely nice. The translation was never broken - as in needing to be fixed. It was just flawed like 99% of the eastern european to english translations that I've seen, and I think I've seen pretty much everything there is to see in this industry. Even AFTER the new and improved dialogue, it's still flawed and it always will be.
They'll keep shovelling crap at us? Are you aware that The Witcher was widely considered one of the best CRPGs ever, BEFORE the enhanced edition? Wasn't it GOTY at several places as well?
You're letting your jaded and emotionally charged opinion of the industry as a whole cloud your ability to see clearly.
TW is nowhere near the worst of the lot, but by hiding a fix as a repackaging and presenting it as a gift, they're being disingenuous and setting a bad precedent. If they had presented it otherwise, as a GotY edition or as an apology, I would've been all for it, but I'm not looking forward to a time when publishers get praise for finishing their unfinished releases.
Let's see if I understand your logic.
You say it's nice that they're fixing the translation, but then you're saying they're actually hiding it as a gift and being dishonest. How can they do something nice, and then have to apologize for their mistake, before you can accept it? Then it wasn't nice but a requisite for simply being tolerated.
Are you truly of the opinion that quality translation from polish to english is a trivial matter? Are you suggesting that a complex and rich story written in an eastern european language, is expected to be flawlessly translated to english with the resources available?
How about cutting them some slack. The dialogue was in no way preventing the game from being fully playable. If we ignore reality and exaggerate the technical problems as you insist, then the dialogue surely wasn't the main issue?
Yet they made the effort to re-record a huge part of the dialogue, and they gave it away free to people who owned the game. That's not exactly a trivial gift and I see nothing dishonest about calling it that. It's what it IS.
Yes I have. Are we really going for this whole "GTA IV is so shitty on PC that you can't complain about other games"-logic? The fact that games like GTA IV or Gothic 3 fucked up worse doesn't mean games like Fallout 3 and even the Witcher did not fuck up at all.
You can complain all you like, it's not the issue here.
I'm trying to demonstrate what unfinished means in this business, and Gothic 3 would seem a very fitting example. The Witcher was never unfinished, that's just your claim - based on what I can only assume is limited experience with this industry.
I don't know of any sites that hail Fallout 2 as the best game of all time. Please elaborate.
I said "perhaps the best" - because it's not officially proclaimed as the best game of all time. But based on many, many posts on sites like the Codex and NMA - it's very clear that Fallout 2 is respected as one of the very best games ever released by a lot of people. To pretend like you're not aware of this is a tactic with a purpose I fail to perceive.