The reason I asked, was to get clarification from him - not you
Really? Since when do message boards work like that? I'm pretty sure I have the right to respond about what "I think".
The reason I asked, was to get clarification from him - not you
Really? Since when do message boards work like that? I'm pretty sure I have the right to respond about what "I think".
Please point out how I've tried to curtail your rights
I'm trying to say that I asked for clarification, and I can only get that from him.
You're free to speak your mind however you like, but it won't really help me in my quest.
Your quest to see the obvious?
I've completed that quest already, it was called:
"The man who would be stubborn though the heavens fall."
It was about you and your posts
However, when *you* say the same thing, that makes me respect you *less* -- because you've never been in that kind of situation, and unless you go to certain Far Eastern countries, you never will be. IOW, when *you're* saying it, all it says is that you're long on a sense of invented grievance and short on empathy -- and that observation doesn't make me respect you; it makes me pity you.
Be an outed atheist, or a republican on a college campus. Apparently I'm responsible for pedophilia, Stalin, Mao, Hitler (even though he was an xtian) *and* I single-handedly steal money from minorities and women because I hate them all and want to use their money to build my third yacht which will be anchored outside my seventh summer home in the Bahamas. Oh, and I hate all the Mexicans and want to shoot them when they cross the border (despite the fact my last name is clearly Hispanic ... ). Can't forget that one, too.
I just think people need to shrug it and ignore it, PJ, and I think it's wrong to say that the same message is right or wrong depending on who it comes from. So if your Russian friend says it, then she's completely right and should be respected, but if a WASP (minus the P) like DTE says it, that's really bad? In my view the statement should be correct no matter who says it.
And thus we hit the crux of the matter. That's an excellent justification for reverse racism and you're endorsing it. Well done. You like to apply different rules to every situation since that allows you to justify practically anything you want, depending on the lights you choose to shine on any given problem. I attempt to be consistent, since that removes subjectivity making for a much clearer path.Or, put another way, insulting a dominant group is not the same thing as insulting a subordinate group.
And thus we hit the crux of the matter. That's an excellent justification for reverse racism and you're endorsing it. Well done. You like to apply different rules to every situation since that allows you to justify practically anything you want, depending on the lights you choose to shine on any given problem. I attempt to be consistent, since that removes subjectivity making for a much clearer path.
*sniff* AND you don't respect me in the morning?
And thus we hit the crux of the matter. That's an excellent justification for reverse racism and you're endorsing it. Well done. You like to apply different rules to every situation since that allows you to justify practically anything you want, depending on the lights you choose to shine on any given problem. I attempt to be consistent, since that removes subjectivity making for a much clearer path.
Obviously not, but I *am* saying that it's wrong to go into every situation looking for something to get indignant about. For some people out there, breakfast is racist because their coffee is black while the milk is white. Ignore the little stuff. It's little stuff and is most likely to fade away when it doesn't achieve the desired response.Are you saying blatant discrimination and racism should simply be shrugged off?
Obviously not, but I *am* saying that it's wrong to go into every situation looking for something to get indignant about. For some people out there, breakfast is racist because their coffee is black while the milk is white. Ignore the little stuff. It's little stuff and is most likely to fade away when it doesn't achieve the desired response.
If a KKK guy is looking for trouble, he can walk into Harlem and shout "nigger" and he'll get all the trouble he can stand. But imagine if that same setup got a response along the lines of, "call us when you've got something good"... Suddenly "nigger" is pointless. And powerless. No reason for our KKK guy to get his Greyhound ticket in the first place.
And let's reverse things a little bit to show just how silly PJ's approach is. Let's put a Black Panther in Macon County, Georgia shouting "cracker". He's gonna get about the same treatment as our previous idiot in Harlem. But according to PJ, this guy is allowed to do that and it should be ignored, simply because he's a minority. PJ would shrug his shoulders at the first guy, saying "Idiot asked for it" (which is a good response) and hold vigils for the second guy, probably filing suit against the Macon police for not preventing the idiot from doing it and then filing a second suit because the only reason they would have attempted to prevent it is because he's a minority and they're trying to stifle his freedom of expression (which is completely hypocritical and WRONG) just because that idiot happens to have different color skin.
Oh, but it's all about power and which group is dominant. The same rules don't apply. Bullshit. It's called blind justice. Give it a try some day. I may have a small hobgoblin mind, but I can identify crap when I smell it, and this hypocritical justification for reverse racism stinks to high heaven.
It's a [insert minority group here] thing--you wouldn't understand. What a cop-out. If it's so nebulous that it can't be explained, it's "little stuff".Well, I understand your position better now.
But maybe if you demonstrated that you did understand that being in the minority, and actually experiencing harsh and blatant discrimination on a daily basis can make it tough to "shrug it off".
I agree there are many kinds of racism, and there are many ways of responding to it.
I could be wrong, but I think that MIGHT be what PJ is after - a little sympathy and understanding.
It's a [insert minority group here] thing--you wouldn't understand. What a cop-out. If it's so nebulous that it can't be explained, it's "little stuff".
Come to think of it... I've been in the scant minority in this forum from day 1. Y'all have deeply offended me, and I refuse to take this debasement any further. I expect reparations, but I'll accept public apologies and the right to blow off any future argument by pointing out that you can't possibly understand the plight of oppressed Republicans the world over, as well as the right to seriously insult members of the lefty majority with impunity. Well crap the bed, I could get used to the protected group stuff now that I've found a protected group to be in.
What hey? I'm confused with your confusion.
I look quite a bit like my avatar (better teeth), I've got an "out-ie", and (even though I have that resigned desperation of a long-term married man) I'm not quite ready to bat for the other team yet.