Well, thinking about it, one liners hardly offer the chance of feeling connected with others or be sympathetic towards others.
Understanding and empathy are needed when there is a rift seperating people. That well-known “imagine yourself in his/her shoes”.

But how to achieve that, the easy way, between diehard Republicans and diehard Democrats… :)
 
As an American leftist who doesn't feel a particularly strong affiliation with the Democrat party, I often find that (in some ways) my disagreements and arguments get more heated with Democratic party loyalists (i.e., #votebluenomatterwho, #theresistance, etc.) than Republicans (even #MAGA Trumpsters).

Presumably I agree with Democrats on more issues than Republicans, but the "pragmatic" liberals who insist that I need to enthusiastically and unconditionally support a politician simply because he or she has a D next to their name drive me nuts.
Apparently about 8% of Democrats dislike Bernie Sanders but they're a very vocal minority on social media. If a politician is taking corporate / billionaire money and supporting their wealthy donor's agenda, they are not someone I wish to see elected.

I tend to support progressive Democrats but only because I feel they have a better chance to win than Greens / Independents or some other "new" third party. If our whole government wasn't set up as a two party system, I'd just as soon not have any parties at all. At least then voters would have to research & find out where a candidate stands on the issues. Of course voting based on name recognition would still be a huge factor but I really could do without the blind partisanship.

Apparently large numbers of Republican voters support singlepayer healthcare. Something like half of them are pro-choice. They might tend to identify as "conservative" or "moderate" and might be afraid of the word "socialism", but they don't necessarily disagree with someone like me on every issue.
 
Yes, the left has always had a tendency to form circular firing squads, and get in their own way.

"Judean People's Front? Fuck off! We're the People's Front of Judea!"

It's definitely something that needs to be worked on.
 
Interesting article. That probably doesn't need to be in P&R, where the wiser members do not venture.
 
Ripper said:
Interesting article. That probably doesn't need to be in P&R, where the wiser members do not venture.
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Hard to tell sometimes as other links I post get flagged as to political.

So it's much easier to post it here then in the off-topic section.
 
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Based on what you just wrote, I'd be more inclined to agree with you. I would probably still not use the word "Coward" - as I think that's a very loaded word and one I almost never use about anyone, but that's another matter.
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An understood option as the word could be applied to undesidered targets.
 
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Another interesting article this time about free will.

The myth of freedom - https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/sep/14/yuval-noah-harari-the-new-threat-to-liberal-democracy
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As you read these lines, governments and corporations are striving to hack you. If they get to know you better than you know yourself, they can then sell you anything they want – be it a product or a politician.
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No. Goverments and corporations are servants to their master.
These days, due to the institutionalization of double standards, it is mandatory for servants to know their master so they can serve the master better.

The servants must deliver what the master desires, not what the master says to want.
There can be a gap between the two.

A rapist might desire his victim to want to be raped. Telling it outright would destroy the desire as it comes from the rapist. It would be forced on the victim.
A proper servant will know this desire and convey through himself, condition the victim so that his master is satisfied.

This is what politicians and corporations do to serve their master.
 
Years from now you'll be telling your children that the internet used to be a place of free speech, free expression, and free thought. Of course after you explain that you'll be put into a camp for telling stories of the "before time".
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Americans Strongly Dislike PC Culture

Link - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...orities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/
On social media, the country seems to divide into two neat camps: Call them the woke and the resentful. Team Resentment is manned—pun very much intended—by people who are predominantly old and almost exclusively white. Team Woke is young, likely to be female, and predominantly black, brown, or Asian (though white “allies” do their dutiful part). These teams are roughly equal in number, and they disagree most vehemently, as well as most routinely, about the catchall known as political correctness.

Reality is nothing like this. As scholars Stephen Hawkins, Daniel Yudkin, Miriam Juan-Torres, and Tim Dixon argue in a report published Wednesday, “Hidden Tribes: A Study of America’s Polarized Landscape,” most Americans don’t fit into either of these camps. They also share more common ground than the daily fights on social media might suggest—including a general aversion to PC culture.
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5 Girls Caught Falsely Accusing A Teen Boy And Get Away With It.

 
Couchpotato said:
5 Girls Caught Falsely Accusing A Teen Boy And Get Away With It.
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Ugh .. such utter BULLSHIT - false claims are fewer than 5%. And UNREPORTED ASSAULTS outnumber false claims by about 15:1 or more. And even if they DO report, women are victimized, and the arrest, prosecution, and conviction rates are the lowest amongst violent crimes … and sentences the lowest.

But hey, if it assuages your moronic non-voting misogynistic little Trumpian brain, whatever …

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/10/opinion/trump-white-male-victimization.html
 
The prevalence of false reporting is low — between 2% and 10%. For example, a study of eight U.S. communities, which included 2,059 cases of sexual assault, found a 7.1% rate of false reports (i). A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston found a 5.9% rate of false reports (h). Researchers studied 812 reports of sexual assault from 2000-2003 and found a 2.1% rate of false reports.
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https://www.nsvrc.org/statistics
 
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Love how certain topics brings out certain posters.

I'm gonna be warm tonight.

Get the flame on.:devil:

I'll make it easy for you all just block me.

That boy in the video had his life ruined by five little spoiled teenagers. They admitted to framing him, and lying. Yet the charges were not dropped, and they got off no charges.

Yes rape is bad but so is lying and ruining someone life because you don't like him. I sure as hell would be suing them, and their family for all they got to if it was my kid.
 
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Ugh .. such utter BULLSHIT - false claims are fewer than 5%. And UNREPORTED ASSAULTS outnumber false claims by about 15:1 or more. And even if they DO report, women are victimized, and the arrest, prosecution, and conviction rates are the lowest amongst violent crimes … and sentences the lowest.

But hey, if it assuages your moronic non-voting misogynistic little Trumpian brain, whatever …

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/10/opinion/trump-white-male-victimization.html
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Why is the video linked bullshite? Are you saying he did rape them?
Also lets go with your 5% number. What does that have to do with the case in point?
 
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Yes rape is bad but so is lying and ruining someone life because you don't like him.
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You are correct - both of those things are bad. Just like slapping someone in the face and cutting off all their limbs with a butter knife are both bad.

Yes, both are bad - but I think we can agree that one is much worse than the other.

The boy in the case was falsely accused, and because of the seriousness and detailed corroboration he was detained in a juvenile facility, and subjected to bullying behavior by classmates, mostly male.

When you read the case, after the first charges were made the boy and his parents agreed to a ‘consent decree’ - basically he admitted no fault but accepted the punishment of checking in with probation. The problem is what happened next: there was a second claim made and corroborated, and the reaction of the school and authorities was *absolutely correct* based on his consent decree and still being on probation.

What is interesting in all of the ‘Men’s Rights’ or other right-wing nonsense sites BS is that while they immediately hop on the fact that the girls lied ... they fail to note that the lies were on the SECOND charge ... NOT the first. SO the first case is essentially ‘settled’, so the parents looking to relitigate that one is silly ... but there SHOULD be some punishment for the girls.
 
Winterfart said:
Nah. Contradicting your numerous bullshit is too enjoyable :p
Have a good night.
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Nah it's the other way around you SJW Left leaning Frenchman.:p
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Why is the video linked bullshite? Are you saying he did rape them?
Also lets go with your 5% number. What does that have to do with the case in point?
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No he did not rape the girls they testified it was a setup.

Yet all these two care about is the women and acting all bothered by the video.

The term we use for them is Social Justice Warrior.

So good-day I have better things to do since I did not start this.
 
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Why is the video linked bullshite? Are you saying he did rape them?
Also lets go with your 5% number. What does that have to do with the case in point?
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No - as I just answered above, the case is real and troubling. We live in an era where bullying is worse and more pervasive than perhaps any other time in history due to our 24/7 online culture.

But because there are children involved, we know sparse details - as I note above, we have been made aware of the alleged lies of the girls through a civil lawsuit. Those are no more proven than the allegations of sexual assault. ALSO, remember that the alleged lies were on ‘Round 2’ - round #1 was already settled with the boy being put on probation.

My son was an attorney and judge in youth court (they actually have peer courts with an actual judge supervising), and they always try to give out second chances and avoid forcing things to ‘the next level’. So in this type of case, there was likely enough corroborating evidence that the boy and his parents were able to take probation without admitting fault (so he doesn’t become a registered sex offender).

What happened next appears that the girls couldn’t stand having him around, maybe thought he would have gotten more punishment for his alleged sexual assault, and decided to lie to get him a ‘real punishment’. Honestly we don’t know - and likely never will. We do have evidence in the filing of a lawsuit (NOT criminal charges) that supposedly the girls were lying ... also evidently no one at all was doing their job as the parents are suing everyone. But again - none of this is FACT.

The only legally factual item we have is that when accused of sexual assault, the boy and his parents went into court and he accepted a punishment for the crime of sexual assault without appeal or protest or civil lawsuit. Does this make him guilty of sexual assault? I don’t know.

The part I call ‘BS’ is the ‘this happens a lot’ scare quote. It IS bullshit ... the core fact is that overwhelmingly women are assaulted and men get away with little to no punishment. Women are assaulted and if they come forward they are revictimized by our misogynistic society. Women are assaulted and are seldom protected from their assaulters, which is why there is such a high rate of men killing women they had formerly assaulted sexually.
 
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