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The Mass Effect series ended at two for me. I tried playing the third one for maybe two hours, demanded a refund, and never looked back. What a horrible mess that was.
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Zloth
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`Tis the season, Ripper! Lots of people are on vacation both on the 'making news' and 'reporting news' side so these work as filler. They beat the Hades out of a "hibernating until mid-January" sign.
ChaosTheory
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ME1 was initially only released on Xbox, and I actually bought an Xbox to play it (seriously- the only reason, but never will again). The controls for the Mako were terrible on a game pad, and trying to survive/kill that giant worm was probably the worst part about that game, other than elevator wait time.
ME2 and 3 were PC for me, and the controls were much, much better when I went back to play ME1, which by then was avail for PC. I ended up loving the Mako, which is why I'm glad it's back.
But yeah, if you quit because of the Mako vs worm scenario, which I believe is optional anyway, then go back and catch up on the ME series despite what others say about it evolving into more of a shooter. I think you'll like it.
ME2 and 3 were PC for me, and the controls were much, much better when I went back to play ME1, which by then was avail for PC. I ended up loving the Mako, which is why I'm glad it's back.
But yeah, if you quit because of the Mako vs worm scenario, which I believe is optional anyway, then go back and catch up on the ME series despite what others say about it evolving into more of a shooter. I think you'll like it.
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Sure, I'm not complaining. It's just that Myrthos asked if we'd had enough of lists, and, personally, I'd rather have less filler and fewer newsbits, if need be. No worries.
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KillingMoon
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I think even for a casual RPG gamer these lists are fairly meaningless - all respect for Myrthos, who presents this item.
I'm just looking out for a couple of games in 2016; Balrum and Expeditions: Viking. That's a short list, but I don't need longer. The last half year I didn't even have a computer - I was travelling around, my means of transport a bicycle and an Ipad was my only substitute for a computer. I have to admit; when winter came and days became short I missed playing games.
I just picked up Pillars of Eternity, it was 60% off, and that'll do me for a while - I'm a fast cycler, but a slow gamer; you can easily overwhelm me with too many games!
I'm just looking out for a couple of games in 2016; Balrum and Expeditions: Viking. That's a short list, but I don't need longer. The last half year I didn't even have a computer - I was travelling around, my means of transport a bicycle and an Ipad was my only substitute for a computer. I have to admit; when winter came and days became short I missed playing games.
I just picked up Pillars of Eternity, it was 60% off, and that'll do me for a while - I'm a fast cycler, but a slow gamer; you can easily overwhelm me with too many games!
Mako is a vehicle, right?..
Anyway, is there more vehicle combat on other planets, is it mandatory?
No, I'm talking about the first part.I remember getting onto another planet and riding in a vehicle and that's where I stopped playing, after we got attacked by a giant worm.
The plot didn't grab me, either, it was kind of childish, at least by that point. One person given ultimate power and authority for silly reasons, blahblahblah.
I heard that you have to go to many more different planets in the first part, which kept me from playing it further. I didn't want more vehicle combat.
Well you will hate Mass Effect: Andromeda then as it will have various vehicles, and might have space battles. Personally that doesn't bother me at all as it enhances the RPG.
I just hope the controls are better this time.
It wouldn't bother me so much if I wasn't losing. I didn't drop the game just b/c it had an instance of vehicle combat, I dropped it b/c it had an instance of vehicle combat I couldn't get through! That really highlighted for me how out of place it was in an RPG. Maybe I should've been more stubborn and with the 100th attempt I'd have killed that worm, I don't know. Anyway, I really hate two things in games in general, I'm just bad at them: platforming and vehicle combat.
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Elel, definitely give Mass Effect another go! For me personally it's one of the greatest games ever. The Mako is a marmite section, some love it others hate it (I personally enjoyed it even though the targeting is odd), but the game itself it wonderful.
Exactly the same here. ME was a 10/10 experience for me, ME2 8/10 (loved the story, but I actually thought the combat was worse than ME1).
But ME3 was a travesty of a game. So dumbed down and on the rails, the story descended into contradictory comedy. *slight spoiler* How they turned the illusive man from a brilliantly morally grey character, who sat right on the edge of results vs morals, into a fecking Scooby Doo villain was utterly, utterly criminal. My Shepards were also ruthless and a sole survivor, how he then gets hung up over that kid is just woefully weak and contradictory.
ME3's awful ending was actually it's saving grave, because it deflected all the criticism which should have been directed at the game itself.
Exactly the same here. ME was a 10/10 experience for me, ME2 8/10 (loved the story, but I actually thought the combat was worse than ME1).
But ME3 was a travesty of a game. So dumbed down and on the rails, the story descended into contradictory comedy. *slight spoiler* How they turned the illusive man from a brilliantly morally grey character, who sat right on the edge of results vs morals, into a fecking Scooby Doo villain was utterly, utterly criminal. My Shepards were also ruthless and a sole survivor, how he then gets hung up over that kid is just woefully weak and contradictory.
ME3's awful ending was actually it's saving grave, because it deflected all the criticism which should have been directed at the game itself.
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I understand as I'm not good with platformer games myself. Two examples is playing the last two recent PC ports of the Castlevania games without an controller.
Anyway I also recall that Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 1&2 also forced laser turret space battles on you at some point. You had to win it or else game over.
I blame the in-game data collection that BioWare implemented. As every game since Dragon Age:Origins has used the data to improve, or take away features.
I have no idea what marmite is, but that's probably good.
Still, how many instances of forced vehicle combat are there? Can I avoid it?
Maybe that was near the end of the game and people persevered, as they already grew to like the game too much. I remember the beginnings of those games really well, there was nothing to turn me off
Well it happened right after you acquired the Ebon Hawk, and both games had the chance of randomly starting a space battle when you traveled to each planet.Maybe that was near the end of the game and people persevered, as they already grew to like the game too much. I remember the beginnings of those games really well, there was nothing to turn me off
You don't really want to know as it's an acquired taste.
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I have no idea what marmite is, but that's probably good.
Still, how many instances of forced vehicle combat are there? Can I avoid it?
Maybe that was near the end of the game and people persevered, as they already grew to like the game too much. I remember the beginnings of those games really well, there was nothing to turn me off
Marmite's a food and part of a British saying
If I remember right I think there are only 4 or 5 such forced instances at most. And then they are only for short periods on flat terrain, which is easier to navigate than the planets.
Persist Elel, there's a corker of a game in there.
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I see... So I just never did that
Ok then, you convinced me guys, I'll put ME series out of never-play-them corner of my mind. One day I'll play ME1 again, after I'm done with games I'm already playing.
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First ME was the best for me ...
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No Mako vehicle combat is mandatory, driving is though. See a Thresher Maw, just run away form it. There is one that is part of an side quest but you don't have to kill it.
For the main story missions, you can just hit & run (you get loot and XP) or ignore the enemies (aka Colossus) without engaging them. Also, you can always exit the Mako to kill stuff on foot. The only place where you don't want stay outside too much is on hazard level 2+ planets.
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Exactly - and I remember the frustration because if you DID die, which was entirely possible, you had to go back to the last save, which probably meant hitting the Davik cutscenes and battle again ...
Since I just finished my replay I can say it is STILL annoying ... I replayed on Mac using the trackpad, only pulling out a mouse for those battles - and I had four this time around. Never had fewer than three IIRC. Given that the rest of the game is RTwP, requiring zero twitch skills ... that was an annoyance.
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purpleblob
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I'd say give ME1 another go, Elel. I couldn't finish ME1 on my first attempt either - I found the story boring, NPCs were not very interactive and I HATED Mako driving too. But the story is *brilliant* the further you go, I'd say it is well worth it to play at least once. If you are determined to kill a Thrasher Maw, maybe put the difficulty down to lowest just for that battle? Or as azarhal suggested, you can just run
Yep, I'll play it, as soon as done with FFVI and\or ready for some sci-fi. For some reason with age sci-fi became the least favorite setting of mine, and I now find it hard to feel enthusiastic about it. I feel kind of neutral.
Which class should I pick? I remember being uncertain about it. Bionic sounded like it was supportive rather than assault class, but the offensive class (whose title I fail to remember) sounded like it would've made a game into a simple shooter.
Which class should I pick? I remember being uncertain about it. Bionic sounded like it was supportive rather than assault class, but the offensive class (whose title I fail to remember) sounded like it would've made a game into a simple shooter.
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purpleblob
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I played through the whole trilogy as a soldier - probably easiest class to play, straight shooter, most effective in combat. I think I did try infiltrator as well and didn't like it at all. It really depends on what you are interested. Personally, other than pure soldier, I might be interested in Vanguard.
Adept: Biotic Specialist
Soldier: Combat Specialist
Engineer: Tech Specialist
Vanguard: Biotic / Combat
Sentinel: Tech / Biotic
Infiltrator: Tech / Combat
Adept: Biotic Specialist
Soldier: Combat Specialist
Engineer: Tech Specialist
Vanguard: Biotic / Combat
Sentinel: Tech / Biotic
Infiltrator: Tech / Combat