Buying new PC end of year - looking for some advice/guidance

[Pladio]

Hello all, I've now had my PC for 4.5 years and it's still running my games alright on 1080p, but I'm starting to feel it having to reduce setting down on some games.
As I got really good advice last time (https://rpgwatch.com/forum/threads/new-computer-quick-view-of-parts.39525/page-3#post-1061533422)

What are your thoughts on this ?



I'm not actually planning to buy until end of the year but this is what I'm looking at for now.
Other than the general build, should I be adding external Ethernet/Wifi adapters or anything else ?

 

[Couchpotato]

Let me wish you good luck as GPU's are finally affordable, but motherboards and CPU's are getting more expensive. I usually just buy pre-built gaming PC's nowadays.

As New Egg has good deals on re-certified or open boxed PCs.

 

[Redglyph]

I'm not actually planning to buy until end of the year but this is what I'm looking at for now.
Other than the general build, should I be adding external Ethernet/Wifi adapters or anything else ?

Seems nice. Don't you want to take a more powerful GPU, to make sure it lasts longer? Though a 3070 is rather good, that's actually what I have now. But with everything that has been released since then, it may be worth considering... For my part, I mainly chose it because it wasn't consuming too much, and it still had good performances (that was 2 years ago).

You shouldn't need any external Ethernet or WiFi. I don't know that particular motherboard's reputation but the specs seem up-to-date (WiFi 6E and 2.5 Gbps Ethernet), it would be very surprising to have any problem there. You can still add one later if you feel that it's necessary.

 

[Pladio]

Seems nice. Don't you want to take a more powerful GPU, to make sure it lasts longer? Though a 3070 is rather good, that's actually what I have now. But with everything that has been released since then, it may be worth considering... For my part, I mainly chose it because it wasn't consuming too much, and it still had good performances (that was 2 years ago).

You shouldn't need any external Ethernet or WiFi. I don't know that particular motherboard's reputation but the specs seem up-to-date (WiFi 6E and 2.5 Gbps Ethernet), it would be very surprising to have any problem there. You can still add one later if you feel that it's necessary.

It's a 4070 on there.

 

[wolfgrimdark]

If its for gaming the AMD 78003DX is the CPU to go with right now.

View: https://youtu.be/nj4gn7od0jY

I just ordered a new PC and this is what I went with:

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (8-Core) 5.0 GHz Turbo (3D V-Cache)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming (Wi-Fi) (AMD X670 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (DDR5)
System Memory: 64GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB
Power Supply: 1500W Corsair HX1500i (Modular) (80 Plus Platinum)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4090 24GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster AE-7 (Hi-Res) (Ultimate Audio Playback)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Triple Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Professional (64-Bit)
Keyboard / Mouse: Devastator Bundle (RGB) Keyboard & Mouse
Headset: (Wired) Gaming Headset + RGB Stand With USB/Audio Passthrough

 

[Pladio]

If its for gaming the AMD 78003DX is the CPU to go with right now.

View: https://youtu.be/nj4gn7od0jY

I just ordered a new PC and this is what I went with:

Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D (8-Core) 5.0 GHz Turbo (3D V-Cache)
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix X670E-E Gaming (Wi-Fi) (AMD X670 Chipset) (Up to 3x PCI-E Devices) (DDR5)
System Memory: 64GB DDR5 6000MHz Kingston FURY Beast RGB
Power Supply: 1500W Corsair HX1500i (Modular) (80 Plus Platinum)
Storage Set 1: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Storage Set 2: 1x SSD M.2 (1TB Samsung 980 PRO) (NVM Express)
Graphics Card(s): 1x GeForce RTX 4090 24GB (VR Ready)
Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster AE-7 (Hi-Res) (Ultimate Audio Playback)
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 3: Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Triple Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 11 Professional (64-Bit)
Keyboard / Mouse: Devastator Bundle (RGB) Keyboard & Mouse
Headset: (Wired) Gaming Headset + RGB Stand With USB/Audio Passthrough

Yes, but that's probably more than double the cost of what I am going with
The GPU alone is the same cost as all the components I put on the list above

 

[bkrueger]

I can't give a good overall recommendation. Only one detail: Since memory is cheap atm you might consider 64 GB instead of 32?

 

[notdart]

Your money you can spend it as you wish; but fury memory is a waste of money; and 64GB is a waste of money (also memory uses a fair amount of current during refresh cycle). the different between 'slow' and 'fast' memory is measurable but not visible so if you are spending a fix amount of dollars save it on memory and put it in gpu. Of course if you want to spend as much as possible; well spend as much as possible. Btw the new 4070 which 1/2 to 1/3 the price of a 4090 might meet your needs.

 

[Redglyph]

It's a 4070 on there.

Right! I didn't squint enough.

 

[Stingray]

64GB is a waste of money (also memory uses a fair amount of current during refresh cycle)

If you assume a person is just using their computer for gaming then likely true, but it's not like you can really say that while having no clue what all a person does on their computer.

 

[Pladio]

Mostly for games and random stuff like streaming, web. So most demanding bit would be games. I can't think of anything needing more than 32GB in the near future.

 

[Pladio]

Let me wish you good luck as GPU's are finally affordable, but motherboards and CPU's are getting more expensive. I usually just buy pre-built gaming PC's nowadays.

As New Egg has good deals on re-certified or open boxed PCs.

I tend to look at PCSpecialist in the UK and they're 300-400 pounds more expensive for a similar build unfortunately. If it was a £100 difference I'd probably get it pre-build.

 

[SirJames]

GPUs are in such a weird place. Nvidia seems to be relying on DLSS3 to give value to their cards. Some years the 70 was as good as the previous gens 80ti but the 4070 struggles to beat a 3080. Until you turn on DLSS3 in the few supported games and get your performance boost from AI frame generation instead of raw GPU power. Since when was a xx70 a 192bit memory bus card, anyway?

Either way, I'd estimate that new rig will get twice the FPS of your old one. Maybe on high settings you were mostly getting 60fps with frequent drops to 55 and rare 45 lows. With the 4070 you can double those scores. With DLSS3 games you can tripple them. But I've never used DLSS3 so I can't speak about the added delay from experience. I just feel like DLSS in general is less optimal than native rendering. I've always seen it as a cheap trick to squeeze some extra life out of your card but now it looks like Nvidia wants it to be the standard way games are played.

Also, not having DLSS3 on 30 series seems sort of mean. They're still "new" cards. They have Tensor cores, don't they? It's almost like Nvidia intentionally abandoned 30 series users just to make 40 look better.

Will we see a similar thing happen when 50 series comes out?

I think there might be some CPU refreshes coming toward the end of the year. Maybe ask again when you're ready to buy.

 

[bjon045]

I think you have made some great choices.

Don't listen to anyone recommending you to get the top tier cpu/gpu etc.

I run a 5600X with a 6700XT and the thing is a beast and it plays almost everything at max on 1440p. You pc is a good 20-30% faster and it will give you plenty of breathing room.

It has always been most cost effective to buy mid range and then buy replacement parts every 3-5 years to make it last as long as possible. Getting something faster than a 4070 is pointless as it would only be of value for high framerate gaming or for the couple of games that a 4070 can't handle at 1440p on ultra - for those games you just turn down the detail to high.

 

[Couchpotato]

I always buy upper-mid range gaming PC's and upgrade when it's only necessary. Ebay is good for used or like new components as well. So yeah I'm cheap and save money.

 

[Carnifex]

I'm more of an intel guy over AMD, all your choices look pretty solid to me. I recently got a new system myself, going from windows seven to eleven in one fell swoop and, although the company seems to be shady as heck at least the computer hasn't given me any issues to date. And again, I don't claim to know jack about computers yet I'm a huge fan of going hard-wired versus wireless, so I'd certainly get the ethernet capability.

 

[JDR13]

Getting something faster than a 4070 is pointless as it would only be of value for high framerate gaming or for the couple of games that a 4070 can't handle at 1440p on ultra - for those games you just turn down the detail to high.

I was about to argue against that given the performance difference between the 4070 and 4080, but I just saw that the 4070 is only $599 now. Did Nvidia recently cut the price? I could have sworn they were $800

 

[Pladio]

4070Ti is the one you're thinking about I think. The 4070 only released two days ago.

 

[JDR13]

4070Ti is the one you're thinking about I think. The 4070 only released two days ago.

You're right. The 4070Ti is the one they rebranded from the 12GB 4080.

 

[Pladio]

Quick one - I did a NewEgg Power Calculator and it says I shouldn't need more than 600W of power. Would you think I could drop down to a 750W power supply and still be ok ? Or is it better to go 850W and be safe ?